S4 E2 - ‘Return of the Mac’ (feat. Johnny Mac)

Johnny Mac is BACK on The All Exclusive Podcast! 

Our second guest of the season becomes the very first to join us in the BRAND-NEW All Exclusive studio!

Jack Jenkins catches up with Johnny to chat about everything he’s been up to since leaving Five Lakes, and what it’s been like returning for the summer to cover James R. Hearn.Expect laughs, stories, and plenty of that classic Johnny Mac charm — you won’t want to miss this one! Follow, like & subscribe so you don’t miss a moment of the new season of The All Exclusive Podcast! 

Chapters

• 0:00 Cold Open: Injury, Tans, And Teasing
• 7:45 Johnny’s Return And The Missing Video
• 12:20 Summertime Stand‑In: Johnny Mack vs Johnny Mac
• 18:30 New Studio, New Chaos: The Drinks Debacle
• 23:40 Teaching Voice Notes To A Technophobe
• 30:40 Life Update: From Five Lakes To Car Parts
• 36:15 Asia Stories: Temples, Monks, And Manners
• 45:20 Vung Tau, Dragonflies, And Giant Statues
• 52:30 Accents And Moos: Where A Moo From
• 58:30 Carrot Tossing: Origins And Tactics
• 1:07:40 Coffee Ventures: Thailand, Vietnam, Egg Coffee
• 1:15:40 Back At Hopton: Generations And Community

Transcript

SPEAKER_05: 0:00

Well, here we go, episode two of the all-exclusive podcast season four. I'm joined once again with Ashley. Hello. He's back. How did you feel like episode one went, Alice? Um, Ashley. Not you, not you, obviously. How episode one, Alice's episode, how did you feel like that went?

SPEAKER_07: 0:19

I thought it went, uh, I really did. It just went. It's over there now. Um uh some say life's changing. Um sorry, I'm quite nervous.

SPEAKER_05: 0:28

What's the biggest lesson you learnt from it?

SPEAKER_07: 0:30

Um, the biggest lesson I've learnt is probably just, yeah, just go for it, really. But like I said, I am nervous um because we're not alone.

SPEAKER_05: 0:40

We are not alone. And no, there's no goats or ghosts. Excellent callback to the happen soon. We are joined in the studio with a man who has been gone for the last three months on an injury. Some say he's been on a Caribbean cruise. Some say he's been to Mexico. All we know is he's back.

SPEAKER_02: 1:09

Hello, it's good to be back, guys. How are you? What's this injury thing you keep talking about?

SPEAKER_07: 1:17

We um for the listeners, we did air quotation marks. Yes, that probably helped when when Jack referred to your injury, because in uh a previous intro uh we have mentioned you you are you have you have a large tan?

SPEAKER_02: 1:32

Well, I was injured for three months. I used to be wheeled in the garden and put into the garden like a mannequin. My partner would go to work, supply me with no sun cream, and I used to burn on a regular basis.

SPEAKER_05: 1:48

Let's let's let's fill in the listeners or viewers um to this conversation. About three months ago, we were doing our gladiators spin-off, shall we say, the or rip-off. The potterators. Yeah, so where we all have alter egos. That's right. I was legend. You were legend. And let's just talk through the situation. You were doing a cartwheel into a handspring.

SPEAKER_02: 2:13

I was doing a cartwheel into a handspring because obviously, as a potterator, that's uh that's the least you can do is show flexibility. And then well, the nanny.

SPEAKER_05: 2:23

A little nanny.

SPEAKER_02: 2:24

She said to me, Wow, I've never seen a cartwheel like that since uh Never Telova. Um, oh no, that's a tennis player, isn't it? Sorry.

SPEAKER_05: 2:31

Yes, as far as the tennis players don't really do a lot of people. No do they want.

SPEAKER_02: 2:36

Wow. Anyway, whoever it was, she was like, I want to see that again.

SPEAKER_05: 2:39

Who were you actually thinking of there? If you weren't thinking of a tennis player, you were thinking of some sort of gymnast? Yes.

SPEAKER_02: 2:45

Um I can't think. Can you name any gymnast? I three months of telly, I also became a fan of gymnastics.

SPEAKER_07: 2:53

I can't remember name the American girl who wins everything. Yeah. Yes. What was her name?

SPEAKER_02: 2:57

Yes, it wasn't her though. Okay, but no. Sorry. Um, so you so you did this cartwheel handspring. It it was a beautiful, it wasn't just a cartwheel, it was one of those moments that you know, even guys were like, Wow, I'd love to have been able to do that. It was a round off.

SPEAKER_07: 3:14

Yeah, can I just say, James, so we've obviously been speaking about this, um, and a lot of people have been referring to it as a cartwheel. Every time exactly, every time they do, I correct them. Thank you. And I say round off. Basically, the difference between, and please back me up on this, I'll back you up. A cartwheel and a round-off spring is for a moment, your whole body is not touching the ground. You are completely 100% airborne. You took flight.

SPEAKER_02: 3:42

I took flight, you're right, and thank you, Ashley. That's the first thing we've ever agreed over. You've obviously done your research, and I tell you what, my whole body left the floor, and as I come down, I went down like a buckled giraffe in pain, agony, and even the nanny stopped the video, deleted it.

SPEAKER_05: 4:02

Terrible. That's not necessarily true. When you were rolling around on the floor in pain, somebody heard that she said, Oh, I didn't know how to film that one. Yes, she wanted she wanted We never got the footage. You know, never got the footage.

SPEAKER_02: 4:17

But we want to answer the footage. Put ask for a hundred thousand people, can I say, which is awesome, guys, and this studio is awesome. Can we put like a national hunt for the nanny who filmed my injury?

SPEAKER_07: 4:27

Yeah, but no, she never pressed record. No, she did press. It was selfie mode. The whole thing was of her face.

SPEAKER_05: 4:34

What we're gonna do, we're gonna reenact what happened. Not with you, because you're two. We're gonna reenact and we're gonna insert. First of all, I think we've got a video of you doing the first round off. Yeah, thank you. Which we're gonna insert here. Obviously, because you were out of action for some time, we did bring in somebody else for the summer. That hurt a little bit, guys. Me? Not you, no, not you. Oh. No, today's guest of the podcast. Guys, that hurt a little bit. What happened? It hurt a little bit. What that when we we brought Johnny Mack back.

SPEAKER_07: 5:11

Return up Mac.

SPEAKER_05: 5:14

What do you mean it hurt you? It just hurt a little bit. It felt like Well, he's just a smaller, uh, more concentrated, more talented version of you. It was better, to be fair. People were saying, actually, thank God James wasn't here. Wow. We're so grateful that Johnny Mack could be back. Fantastic.

SPEAKER_07: 5:29

Yeah, I think scores went up, actually, to once in the back.

SPEAKER_02: 5:31

Yeah, you have to give older people a chance as well.

SPEAKER_05: 5:36

Um do you want anything to say about today's episode then, Ash? No. There was one moment in the episode uh that I'm really looking forward to watching back, and it's the moment where you try and make a joke because Johnny talks a lot in this episode about being very spiritual.

SPEAKER_07: 5:53

He is a very spiritual guy. It is fascinating.

SPEAKER_05: 5:56

In fact, I think we're gonna count how many times he has he says the word spiritual because he does say it a few.

SPEAKER_07: 6:03

Um, but you even then start talking about So I said, so I so it was there was a previous episode, someone from Five Lakes, I can't remember who, my apologies. But we riff on the word goat and ghosts getting confusing. Yeah. And I don't I can't remember why. I'm sorry, you're hearing.

SPEAKER_05: 6:24

That's coming up later on, yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 6:25

So instantly my brain went to Johnny. Have you ever seen, and because we're talking about spirits, clearly the line should be, have you seen any ghosts? I said, Have you seen any goats? As in the animal theme.

SPEAKER_05: 6:40

He does not understand that and just carried on talking about ghosts.

SPEAKER_07: 6:43

Yeah. So listen out for that. It's a very quick moment.

SPEAKER_05: 6:45

It fly possibly one of the funniest things you've ever said, and nobody really heard it.

SPEAKER_07: 6:50

Thank you.

SPEAKER_05: 6:51

Let's get into this week's episode of Johnny. The all of Johnny. Do you want to say it all together? The all-exclusive podcast. With Johnny Matt. I'll say the with, right. So we all say all exclusive podcasts together. So let's get into this week's episode of The All-Iclusives. Stop. Stop. Inclusive. All exclusive podcasts. All right. It's all inclusive.

SPEAKER_06: 7:15

No, no, it's who are we excluding?

SPEAKER_05: 7:17

No. The all exclusive. You in a minute. What? The all exclusive podcast. All exclusive podcasts, right? With Johnny Matt. Okay, here we go. Yeah. Let's get into this week's episode of the All Exclusive.

SPEAKER_06: 7:31

No, but if you're sorry, I'm starting to miss Henry and I've never thought of that.

SPEAKER_07: 7:34

I still didn't realise this is called the exclusive podcast. What do you mean you didn't know what it was? I've just never known it. Okay, why do you call it the exclusive podcast?

SPEAKER_06: 7:41

But doesn't exclusive mean you're excluding people.

SPEAKER_05: 7:44

Yes. What? But we've got a hundred thousand. It's exclusive. It's like an exclusive club, isn't it? Yeah, but that was all exclusive podcasts with Johnny Mack. Press play.

SPEAKER_07: 8:15

No, I've gone for Cam and Mile. Camenmile. Cam and Mile, yeah. A nanny going to bed. I'm just, yeah, I feel like it's time to unwind. What's the time? It is. Ten past two in the afternoon. It's nearly your bedtime. I'm pretty much done. I'm done for the day.

SPEAKER_05: 8:31

Yeah. This is this is strange, right? So you were the second ever episode released on the All Exclusive Podcast. Yeah, I was. Can you remember? Do you remember that far back?

SPEAKER_04: 8:41

Yeah, yeah, I don't. Of course I do. I ain't got Alzheimer's like me.

unknown: 8:45

Come on.

SPEAKER_04: 8:46

Come on. Not yet, anyway. If I follow in the footsteps of me nan and my dad, I will probably have it. So like if you invite me back when I'm 80, I'll probably won't remember nothing.

SPEAKER_05: 8:53

Well, we can ask you the same questions, though we're just going to be able to do that. You're calling me ask me the same questions.

SPEAKER_04: 8:58

See if I get the same answers.

unknown: 8:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 9:00

Been all around the world. I've added places now, haven't you? We started now by the way.

SPEAKER_05: 9:04

Well, no, well, we're recording now, but we're just not you know, well, you know obviously where I went, so and you know, I'm just looking forward to my new coffee shop as well. Yeah, well, yes. Well, I mean we'll talk about that in a little while, because yes, I I mean I had a little refresh and listened to um your first episode last night, just to you know, just to set the scene and reminisce.

SPEAKER_04: 9:26

Did you go to bed with me then, Jack? Is that what I'm gonna do?

SPEAKER_05: 9:28

I did, yeah, yeah. As part of my nighttime routine was to listen to me talking to you, me and Henry talking to you. Uh and there was a bit have you listened to that episode, Ash? No, no, see after. So just to put it in context, Ash is now our work experience here on the podcast. It's really nice to see you work experience, boy. Did you get the tease? Pun no, right, okay. And at the start of this, as we do with all the episodes, we asked them what they would like as a drink from their all-inclusive, from the all-inclusive menu. Um, and Ash Ash's job was to get the drinks. And what did you do?

SPEAKER_07: 10:08

Wait, when is it when was it my when was it my job to get the drinks?

SPEAKER_05: 10:12

That's the work experience.

SPEAKER_07: 10:14

Well, okay, so what happened was I turned up, we've got a new recording studio, just let a list.

SPEAKER_05: 10:20

And you are the first person in this brand new recording studio as well. Well, both of you. Okay. Thank you, Ash.

SPEAKER_07: 10:27

Thank you, Jack. Um, so then so I turned up on time. Jack turned up on time, so there's only one person left on their way through, so I sent a voice note to get the drink. So, first of all, he arrived late. I'm talking about Johnny Mack, and he arrived with no drinks. Johnny's the guest. Okay, to explain yourself, Johnny, why you arrived late?

SPEAKER_04: 10:47

Well, because to be honest with you, mate, I don't listen to my voicemail.

SPEAKER_07: 10:51

So No, it's not a voicemail, voice note. Voice mail.

SPEAKER_05: 10:55

The voice note that you say So you say you forgot Johnny. Well no, you didn't even listen to it. You just ignored him.

SPEAKER_04: 11:01

I no, I didn't actually ignore him. I didn't even see that he'd left the voicemail.

SPEAKER_07: 11:05

You then also said to me, Oh, I didn't understand I didn't understand what you're saying, mate. Don't know where it is. No, I didn't understand because I couldn't. Oh, that's good. No, I didn't mean that. Hey Johnny, can you do me a favour, please? Could you collect from the bar a green tea, two sparkling mortars, and your dream drink for the podcast, whatever your dream drink would be. Um thanks. See? Clear as.

SPEAKER_04: 11:35

Yeah, but what is that? What is it you sent me? A voice what? Note. I wouldn't even know what a voice is. I sent you a TikTok.

SPEAKER_05: 11:42

I haven't got TikTok. This man is nearly 70 years old. He's not gonna know what a voice note is. Have you ever sent a voice note before? Uh no, I don't know. I don't even know what it is, Jack. If you were to send a voice note to somebody right now, you could be anybody and just tell them that you've learned how to use voice notes. Who who who could you send it to? Who would I send it to? Yeah, what about Mark Brewer? What why don't you send it to me? Why don't you send a voice note to Mark Brewer telling him that you've just learnt how to send voice notes?

SPEAKER_04: 12:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 12:12

Okay, Mark, you're up to the next one. No, no, no, no. This is no, not on your phone. What? What, my burner phone? No, have you got your phone on you?

SPEAKER_04: 12:24

Yeah, I've got my phone on me.

SPEAKER_05: 12:25

Yeah, right. We'll teach you how to use where are you looking? Where is your phone?

SPEAKER_04: 12:29

On the floor. On the floor, because you told me not to put nothing on the table because it makes noises.

SPEAKER_05: 12:33

To be fair, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 12:34

So what if I put it right look there?

SPEAKER_05: 12:37

You go. That's making my point. Right, we'll teach you how to let's so yeah, open up WhatsApp. Oh, he's using one finger.

SPEAKER_07: 12:44

Open up WhatsApp. He's using one finger. There you go. Do everything.

SPEAKER_04: 12:47

I use one finger, yes, I do. Why am I talking, looking at that, Mike?

SPEAKER_05: 12:52

So there you go. If you right now, open up your messages to Mark. Open up my messages to Mark. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 12:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_05: 12:58

I've got to find him first.

SPEAKER_07: 13:00

Can you also read out the last thing that was said? To Mark? Yes.

SPEAKER_04: 13:07

Missed voice call.

SPEAKER_05: 13:10

Yeah, that is no, that that's not you saying that. Oh, is it? That's that's WhatsApp telling you that you've missed the voice call right now. He said outside. He said outside.

SPEAKER_04: 13:22

Yeah. What does that mean?

SPEAKER_07: 13:24

You were putting late again.

SPEAKER_04: 13:25

Well, no, I don't think I was late. I think I was waiting to get a lift home.

SPEAKER_05: 13:30

I think I'm not sure. Right. So what you do, you see, there's a little microphone symbol down there. Yeah, I've got that. Hold that down. Yeah. And then talk into it and just, I don't know, send Mark a message and just say, you know, that you've learned how to use voice notes. Alright, okay.

SPEAKER_04: 13:47

Alright, Mark, how are you doing? Why am I looking at this microphone? It's the wrong microphone. Oh, I've got to look at the microphone looking. Right, so I've got a I'm sending the voicemail now. Yeah. Voice note, sorry. Hang on.

SPEAKER_07: 13:59

That's okay.

SPEAKER_04: 14:00

No, I'm why am I pressing this button down there? Is it working? Yes, you've got 15 seconds of you trying to figure out how to use a voice. Okay, then Mark. So look, what I don't know why, Mark, look, I'm looking at the microphone on the table. Why am I looking at that? I don't know. They've asked me to use my phone, Mark. Yeah, to send you a voicemail. So now I'm telling, sorry, I'm sending you a voicemail now to say that I am actually using my phone like this. And you know what I'm like, Mark. You know what I'm like with phones and all that. I'm awful with it. So now I'm looking back at the microphone on the table to tell you this. Um I got a missed voice call from you, Mark. 1024. Oh, that was when you were waiting for me to go and get the sausage rolls. I've actually only just seen that from yesterday, mate. I'm really sorry.

SPEAKER_05: 14:53

As that says, let's just make sure you've it said, yeah, you've got right. So you can replay that one. Let's just have a look at that. Let me have a look at that because I don't know that's it's really quiet as well. Yeah, I don't think it's an old iPhone. Yeah, how old is the is the iPhone? I don't know. It's like an iPhone 4. You don't you don't need to play it again. Oh, right. Okay, check so we suffered enough with the first time. Okay, so I'll stop it now, then perfect. So look, we've brought you back onto the podcast because it has been the return of the Mac. Return of the Mac.

SPEAKER_04: 15:34

Return of the Mac once again. You know that I'll be back here.

SPEAKER_05: 15:40

Have we got copyright for that? I don't know if we have. We'll just slip it in and see if we'll phone up We'll phone up Mark Morrison and asked him anyway.

unknown: 15:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 15:47

We'll send him a voice note. Yeah, we've send him. I actually know him, so we'll be all right when he's gonna go. Well, through through friends, through other friends, yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 15:54

Can you ring him now?

SPEAKER_04: 15:55

No, I can ring my mate who knows him.

SPEAKER_05: 15:58

Did he write the song about you?

SPEAKER_04: 16:00

Um I think he probably may have done check, actually, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 16:04

But you were obviously last time we we talked to you, you were down at Five Lakes. Yeah, I was, yeah. You you left Five Lakes, yeah. You went and travelled the world, and now you travel around Norfolk. I do travel around Norfolk. Delivering car parts.

SPEAKER_04: 16:18

Delivering car parts, yes. And actually, I delivered a car part inadvertently, not knowing, to Jane Potter. To Jane Potter? Yes, who was sitting on the wall while I delivered it. Waiting for her for her car to be MOT'd.

SPEAKER_05: 16:34

Oh, oh, I was gonna say, how do you not know that you're delivering a car part to somebody specific? Surely it's addressed to them, but if it was to the garage.

SPEAKER_04: 16:43

Yes, it's to the garage, but obviously Jane was waiting for it because it was a part for a car for uh MOT to get a car for its MOT. I've actually learnt that. You need spark plugs, you need filters, yeah, you need some plugs. I I know this now.

SPEAKER_07: 16:58

You you are now a car mechanic expert.

SPEAKER_04: 17:01

Couldn't ask me anything you want.

SPEAKER_07: 17:02

How much indicator fluid do you need? What fluid? Indicator fluid.

SPEAKER_04: 17:08

Well, if you need indicator fluid for your indicators, turn your indicators on off, you're doing something wrong, Ash.

SPEAKER_07: 17:13

Oh, he's good, he's good. I tried to trick him. Yes, you tried to trick me, didn't you, Ash? Yes.

SPEAKER_04: 17:18

I'm not that stupid. Why do I keep looking at this microphone? I don't know.

SPEAKER_05: 17:21

You're talking to you're not talking to us, you're talking to the microphone. We've actually got, and this is one of the first episodes we've got filmed in in this manner as well. We've got the camera set up as well. Hello, to the people who might be be watching. Ross the runner in the corner there as well, looking after us. I wasn't sure whether I don't I think you're much more than a runner.

SPEAKER_04: 17:41

Thank you, Ross. You actually got me my builder's tea. Thank you, Ross. And how is your team? And how's what, Jack? Your tea. Yes, wonderful. It's actually made perfection, that is.

SPEAKER_05: 17:51

That's good.

SPEAKER_04: 17:52

Yeah, thanks, Jack.

SPEAKER_05: 17:53

So back to the car parts. You saw Jane Potter. What did she say to you? Um What are you doing here?

SPEAKER_04: 17:58

Yes, exactly. She said, Oh, you're working for Nick now, and Nick is the guy that that does her car for her, like services her car and gets it through the MOT. I was like, no, I actually work for Eurocar Parts. I deliver the car parts to the people that repair your car. I do your car, you see. What's your area for you? My area. What area of expertise, you mean? No, no, I'm not sure. Oh, the area I work in. Oh, right, sorry, I'm getting you there. I do like uh Yarmouth, I do uh caster, I'll go case there, um Potter I am Potter Higham, sorry. Yeah, that yeah, those that are posh. Um yeah, I'll just go everywhere really.

SPEAKER_07: 18:38

Like Munsley, you can go up to Munsley and do you do um like see I know you do commercial, but do you do like private as well?

SPEAKER_04: 18:44

Yeah, yeah, we actually do do deliver privately.

SPEAKER_07: 18:47

So if a listener wants to order a new windscreen wiper, how would they get in contact with you? Oh Johnny Mack, personal delivery. How how do we start?

SPEAKER_04: 18:56

How do they do that? Do you I can give them my WhatsApp if you like? He won't be able to make it. We'll have to learn how to do it first, yeah. Of course.

SPEAKER_05: 19:03

Well, we're not gonna offer your number out just yet on on the on the podcast. Well, you can do because I'm looking for wife number four. You can do whatever you want. Yeah, of course. Yeah, you yeah, you are. You can't be looking for a a fourth wife. I well, sort of, yeah. Um Ashley is now on his first wife. He's wow, Ash.

SPEAKER_07: 19:21

I think I don't think the listeners know that, especially probably mentioned it several times.

SPEAKER_05: 19:25

I mean, if you've been on resort, he's mentioned it non-stop.

SPEAKER_07: 19:27

I myself um am married six months now, I've been married for. So, how many wives have you had? Um, three wives, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 19:34

Didn't one leave you for a fireman? Um, actually, yes. Because the kitchen kept catching fire when I was not there. She ended up going with a fire fire officer, yes. That Mark used to actually tell me very, very plainly, him and the fetcher going back in the days, come and took photos of my house with nothing left in it. Which was very nice of them.

SPEAKER_05: 19:58

What were they all fire damaged? Uh had to be removed.

SPEAKER_04: 20:03

Well, something had to be removed. Yeah. Mainly all my furniture, yeah. Uh, but that was after, well after the fire. What caused the fires, do you think? Um, what caused the fires? I'm not actually sure, Chat.

SPEAKER_05: 20:15

This could become some sort of true crime podcast, it could really, couldn't it?

SPEAKER_04: 20:19

Yeah. Um, it always just seemed to happen when I wasn't there. That was the only thing, I don't know.

SPEAKER_05: 20:24

When you say there was a fire when you weren't there, and then obviously the fireman came round. Was there like a fire engine, or was it just a man was he wearing uniform? Well, I I think he was wearing uniform, yes.

SPEAKER_04: 20:40

But probably Did you just come home to fire a fireman in your home? I did several times. Yeah. Been put out. Did you see? I was gonna say, did you see it? And redecorated all in the space of a couple of hours, which was wonderful for me.

SPEAKER_07: 20:57

So you never saw any evidence of the fire?

SPEAKER_04: 20:59

Um, well, no, that's what I'm trying to say, Ashley. I did not see any evidence of anything, actually.

SPEAKER_05: 21:04

No, what a cheery way to start things. Such a lovely thing to actually happen. But look, we'll go on the on the last time you were on the podcast, we obviously um you took us on a trip around the world. Yeah, all the places I'd been, yeah. Previous relationships around the world. Uh uh, I don't think we can sit through it all again. It was quite a few places. But you've you've ventured out to a different part of the world now, you've gone off to Asia.

SPEAKER_04: 21:32

Yeah, I've I did go off to Asia, yeah. First time I'd ever been to Asia, and I've just got to say is it's the most wonderful place. I wish I'd have gone many, many years ago, actually. It's just a beautiful place, very spiritual. I'm a very spiritual person, actually, Jack.

SPEAKER_05: 21:47

You are? Yeah. You're gonna like one of our new features coming up very shortly. But why would you say we're gonna take you to a Zen garden shortly, but why would you say specifically you're quite a spiritual person?

SPEAKER_04: 21:59

Because I f I just feel very spiritual with people. I do make connections with people very, very easily sometimes. And just when I was in when I was actually in Bangkok, it was actually in Bangkok in in the temples. Uh What Arun and What Po. What What Poe. What I know what a rune. What what arun? No, that's the name of it, Jack. It's not what what, it's what arun and what po. They're the names of the temples.

SPEAKER_05: 22:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 22:26

It's not what, because it's a temple.

SPEAKER_05: 22:28

This feels like a like a who's on first, what's on second comedy sketch.

SPEAKER_07: 22:33

It was Oh, yeah, yeah. I actually got told off from one of those temples. Did you? Because I when I walked in, I had my back to the Buddha statue, and that is a big note. Yeah, that's a big note. How did you walk in back? That is true. Um, because I just to get the the photo, so it was better if if the photo were to see my face rather than my back. Oh, you were taking selfie. No, someone's taking a photo of me. Oh, I see. But uh, but because I didn't know the rule, so stupidly I faced towards the camera with the Buddha behind me, and I was told that's a massive no-no. I should have had the photo with my back towards the camera and me looking at Buddha. Is that true, Johnny Matt?

SPEAKER_04: 23:16

Yeah, that is true, actually, Ash. Yeah, it's true. And oh also, as well, you you mustn't touch the monks, especially their heads. I think this is pretty good sound advice anyway. Well, yeah, but they're all bald.

SPEAKER_07: 23:26

So No, yeah, no, I know, but Oh, I was told you could rub their bellies for good luck.

SPEAKER_04: 23:32

No. Not no, not not the actual monks, you can't. No, the actual people these people talking about. Yeah. Yeah, you rub a touch on a monk's belly for good luck.

SPEAKER_05: 23:43

Did you do that when you were over there? Where did you go?

SPEAKER_07: 23:46

Yeah, what what part did you go at? Bangkok. So what what what what what what what what errone? What a rune. Is that not the that's not a that's a thing. Rub the belly for good luck, I was told.

SPEAKER_05: 23:58

No, did you have to pay the man afterwards? Yes, yeah, yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

SPEAKER_04: 24:02

That makes a lot of sense, actually. Yes. Are you sure that he wasn't a fireman in disguise?

SPEAKER_05: 24:07

Yeah, it was there was a fire in the temple that day.

SPEAKER_07: 24:10

It was actually, yeah, loads of candles everywhere. Maybe it's oh no, oh no, it's the belly of the Buddha.

SPEAKER_05: 24:15

Yes, the belly of the Buddha. I so stopped off in Burma on the cruise ship once, and I we we left the terminal. It was a very strange experience, the whole thing. I left the terminal to get into like one of the taxis at the end of the terminal, basically, but everyone else had like rehearsals, so I was getting off on my own, and I was like, ah, I want to go to specific temple. So I told like the the taxi people outside the front, and they led me past all of the taxis, and because I was on my own, I ended up going to a just a guy on a moped and getting they he then took me off on this moped to the temple, and I was sort of when I was sort of holding this man by the waist for dear life for dear life on this moped, thinking, I don't know if this is the smartest idea of you know, I I don't really know if I should have just got on this random moped. Am I gonna end up where I thought I'm gonna end up? Did end up in a temple, but the whole time I was sort of you get there, and obviously you have to take your shoes off as well. Yes, you do take your shoes off at a temple, yeah. And I was like, is he am I and he was sort of like, I'll take your shoes, and then I'll just wait for you while you go into the temple. I would the whole time I was like, I don't know if I'm gonna end up with any shoes. I thought, is he just gonna leave me? And but in the end, I just ended up walking around this pagoda, actually. Um, and yes, he he was there, I got my shoes back, and then he did he took me home eventually. But it was a very strange experience, the whole thing.

SPEAKER_04: 25:56

Yeah, but they do, you know, like that should be what like a like a grab bike and something like that, yeah. Like very similar to um in Bangkok. You said you went to Bangkok as well, actually. Yes. So you know, like when the guys just randomly stop you in the in the road and just say to you, come, come on, and you might be got your suitcase. No, you can put that on there as well. But you yes, on the on the motorcycle. So you've got your suitcase, you've got your travel bag, you've got yourself, you've got another man. And then just probably another half a mile up the road, he'll stop and he'll actually ask someone else to get on with you. Yeah, yes, so before you know it, there's about four or five people sitting on his motorbike with their suitcases on top of their heads.

SPEAKER_07: 26:37

I I mean, I went around and tuk-tuk, so yeah, tuk-tuks are wonderful as well. Yeah, the best, the best story I've ever, ever had was um it was chucking it down, absolutely storm monsoon, and we were on the streets, me and my now wife, don't know if I mentioned it, um, and just some some lovely random guy just offered an umbrella to her. And I'm and you're thinking, Oh, is he gonna want money for this? Is it is it a con? Is something going on? And he was the nicest, sweetest guy ever. Yeah. He just was like, no, take it. And I was and I've got my ready to offer money, and he was like, No, no, no, just take it. And we just just walked away in this torrential storm, and she had the umbrella. And that act of kindness genuinely was like, I still remember it to the day. It's just the nicest thing ever.

SPEAKER_05: 27:21

It is a really lovely part of the world, actually. I'm I'm hoping I want to try and get over to Japan and and see that.

SPEAKER_04: 27:26

Yeah, myself too, Jack, at one point. I think what Ashley said there though is is a real fair point about people. Maybe that is why I felt sort of very spiritual over there, because they do do things just sincerely out of the kindness of their heart.

SPEAKER_05: 27:40

Yeah. Um, where about specifically did you go then? So you obviously mentioned we talked about this in your first episode.

SPEAKER_04: 27:47

I can't say Pacific.

SPEAKER_05: 27:48

No, no, specific.

SPEAKER_04: 27:50

No, yeah, yeah. I know, I know what you're trying to tell me to say, Jack, Pacific, but I can't say Pacific. I can't say Pacific. I know I try to, yes, yes, Jack. I know the word, but I can't say Pacific. But I can say Spurs because I support them, but I can't say Pacific, which don't make sense, really, when you think about it. But there you go.

SPEAKER_05: 28:09

It doesn't make a lot of sense.

SPEAKER_04: 28:10

No, it doesn't say.

SPEAKER_05: 28:10

Well, where where were you then? Where in the world were you? What Pacifically? Yeah. Um not in the Pacific, no, in the Pacific in Asia.

SPEAKER_04: 28:17

In Asia, well, I I actually started in um Bangkok, I used Bangkok as my base, and then I have visited Vietnam, so I went to Ho Chi Minh City, formerly Saigon, which is wonderful, and Vung Tao, where I actually visited the Statue of Christ, and I that was crazy. I've never seen anything like that. There was these big, massive, big dragonfly things, yeah. They were like as big, probably as big about as long as my my hand.

SPEAKER_05: 28:46

So not very big anyway.

SPEAKER_04: 28:48

Well, no, not very big, but quite big for me. Um, with these big long stingy tails and these big wings and it's flying about everywhere, like hundreds, seemed like hundreds, thousands of them. And as you got closer to Christ, they just disappeared. It was the weirdest thing I'd ever noticed. So that was like it was protecting him until you got to a certain point where they would allow you to go. That's cool. It's really cool, yeah. I've been to Von Tower, but I never went to the You told me, yes, um, back beach and front beach, yeah. Which actually goes all the way around in like a half moon, and you can walk it. It's about five kilometres, I think.

SPEAKER_07: 29:23

Was he covered in like some insect repellent, maybe?

SPEAKER_04: 29:26

Um it could have been actually he's a very big statue, so there would have been a lot of insect repellent that he'd have needed, Ash, but yeah, you could be right there.

SPEAKER_07: 29:36

I think of it as a magic.

SPEAKER_04: 29:37

But I I and I did stand underneath his armpits, which didn't stink, so yeah, that was that was good. I'm glad you shared that with me. No, I'm just saying, you I actually stood under his armpits looking out over the looking out over Vung Tao, which was wonderful. And I actually compared nosy jackets. My nosies like quite Roman y, you know, all over my face type thing. And then, like, when I when I looked at actually looked at Christ. Like this, our profiles were so similar. So perhaps I should have been daddy. Yes.

SPEAKER_05: 30:06

Maybe that's why I'm so spiritual. Maybe. Well you keep saying that you're so spiritual, spiritual. What would you what would you say is the most spiritual thing that happened to you while you were over there? Why why do you why do you claim sort of that?

SPEAKER_04: 30:22

Because I think when I was, I mean, spiritual things have happened to me all my life, really.

SPEAKER_05: 30:25

Like, you know, when when when Do you mean spiritually as in like obviously we talked before previously about the curse of Johnny Mack? Are you spiritually cursed? Yeah, it probably is spiritually cursed. Has visiting Asia lifted the curse at all?

SPEAKER_04: 30:40

Um that is probably to be seen, Jack, if I'm honest with you. Uh but no, it's literally when I was in Wattarun, Wat Po, um, it was just a calmness, just like a general calmness that you feel. And and obviously, when you're in and around the Buddha temple, it is just a very it's a very weird experience because you feel like a just a calmness. And I I'm not the only person that actually felt it because you speak to other travellers that will say the same things to you. Yeah, very, very weird experience.

SPEAKER_07: 31:09

Being spiritual, have you ever seen a goat?

SPEAKER_04: 31:14

I've I there's actually something I need to tell you. This I don't think I've ever told you this one, Jack, about when I you used to talk to this Russian lady called Elena Platonova. Was she the Russian who was in Iceland? No, that was Anna, the KGB agent. Okay, so right.

SPEAKER_00: 31:32

No.

SPEAKER_04: 31:32

She was the one who learned everything off of American movies and used to wear a different wig every night.

SPEAKER_05: 31:38

Yes, I think we did talk about her previously.

SPEAKER_04: 31:40

The one that I couldn't bring home to my mum and dad, because I could just imagine my mum now answering the door to her dressed as someone different every night and asking who she is. Has she come for an audition for a movie? So yeah, no, it wasn't Anna. No, this was Elena, who actually told me that she was my guardian angel. And um, she told me that she fought. Is she I'm sure she's true? She told me that she actually fought um in different dimensions, and I saw scars and I thought it was her husband who was actually called Herman in the German.

SPEAKER_05: 32:11

So it was Herman. I'm gonna stop. While we're talking about Herman the German, I'm gonna stop you there when you said she she thought in different dimensions or she fought in different dimensions. Oh, sorry, she fought like like fighting. Yeah, fighting, yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 32:26

No, I just want to clarify that before we How did she get in? How did she get there?

SPEAKER_04: 32:31

It was because she was a guardian angel, and that's what she told me. But how how did she get there? Because in her dream state. So basically, this is a true story, too. And I'm I will seriously, this is why I feel as though something is in this this beautiful world of ours and our universe, it's wonderful. Well, maybe not in the black rock part of it, I'm just saying, you know. Yeah, so basically, she said she was my guardian angel that she she fought with her F, fought against um different aliens in these different in under Underworld. She actually said that there are aliens here, but they live under the oceans in different time frames. And but I saw these, I saw these scars on her, like when we used the Skype and that. So I asked her, is this are you okay with your husband? You know, is he she said, No, these are the these are my battle scars. And I was like, Okay, it was a very weird experience talking to her. But then one night I asked her, I was working actually then at witness, I was comparing it with we might have to bleep that out. Okay. Okay then. Well, I was working at a at another park. I was working at another. You can say it, we'll just bleep it. Okay, okay. Anyway, so I was working at the court of witness, and um I came home, and um it was about 12 30 in the morning, and she scraped me. So we scraped for probably about I would say probably just about 10 minutes or so, and she actually said to me, I will come to you this evening. I was like, Okay, yeah, yeah, okay. Then I fell asleep, and then actually about I can't remember what time it was, but I just woke up and saw her at the edge of my bed. And I was talking to her in Russian. Yes, I know it sounds weird, Jack. So we had this whole conversation about uh um what is what was happening with her. We've we spoke about Herman, the German, who's her husband, who was a very kind person actually, and I fought with because of her scars. And then the next morning, I fell asleep the next morning. She scratched me, which was about 10 30 in the morning. So I said to her, Did you visit me last night, Elena? And she said, Yes, you know I did. And I said, Can you just say what time it was? So she said, 5 30 in the morning. I said, No, it was actually 2 30 because I looked at my clock and she said, Johnny, Moscow time, three hours different. That's a true story.

SPEAKER_07: 35:12

So she How did she keep her wigs dry if she's five?

SPEAKER_04: 35:16

No, no, no, this was a different woman. This was the guardian angel.

SPEAKER_05: 35:21

Well, whatever happened to the Russian lady who visited in your dreams then?

SPEAKER_04: 35:25

Um Elena, which basically we we sort of drifted apart, really. In the dream. In the dream.

SPEAKER_07: 35:34

What was your favourite wig of hers? Oh Anna's.

SPEAKER_04: 35:37

My favourite wig of hers was the was the actual um how can you explain it? You know, like it it sort of goes around your head like that and then comes back, flicks and goes back around. Very short. So it was like it was like a it was like a didn't really have a like a part in, so it was like a a monk, I suppose. That came around. She looked like a monk. No, she didn't look like a monk. I'm just saying, it's but Ed, you know when the monks and they just have a yeah, so you put a basin on someone's head and head around it.

SPEAKER_05: 36:10

The word is fringe. Fringe, that's it. Yeah, Claudia Winkleman. He can speak Russian, but he can't really speak English very well. Like a Claudia Winkleman fringe.

SPEAKER_04: 36:19

That's it, a Claudia Winkleman fringe. A low, but in the room. And it would come down in a bob, yeah, but it would like have these little curl bits, almost like a helmet. Yes, I suppose you could. Maybe. No. No, not well, no, because it'd have this little curly bit, this bit here, like whisper up and go back around again.

SPEAKER_05: 36:41

When in talking about languages, and obviously you've travelled the world quite a bit. We've got a new game that we've played uh because of Alice Dan at Five Lakes. Yes, we do. Oh, little Alice at Five Lakes. Yeah, yeah. I love little Alice at Five Lakes, by the way. She's great, isn't she? She she would we we went down to Five Lakes and had a conversation with her.

SPEAKER_07: 37:00

She's got a great brain, um, and she came up with this game that rhymed, and the game is called Getting to Moo You.

SPEAKER_05: 37:07

No, I think it's Where a Move From. Where a Move From I think you get that wrong every time. I really we've had a it's been a I can't remember which way it's I can't remember which way around it is. Where a move from.

SPEAKER_04: 37:22

Where a m where a move from? What is this about cows? Yes.

SPEAKER_05: 37:26

Well, yes. Because she brought up the fact that cows mou in different regional accents.

SPEAKER_04: 37:32

She's very clever young lady.

SPEAKER_05: 37:34

Yes, yeah, and it sparked this game that we then have asked everybody to moo, and then we have to guess where that cow is from. Originally, it's it's where the the guest is from.

SPEAKER_07: 37:48

Yeah, so I don't I don't know, Johnny, where you're from. Please don't tell me. So if you move from where you're your birthplace. From my birthplace? Yes.

SPEAKER_04: 37:57

Move from my birthplace.

SPEAKER_05: 38:00

You don't you don't go there spiritually. Okay. You you you do it in this room. Move. That's quite a deep move. That was a deep move. It was quite a deep move.

SPEAKER_07: 38:09

Your eyes were also the back of your head then. You were gone.

SPEAKER_05: 38:11

Can you do that again but make it a little bit longer?

SPEAKER_04: 38:14

Mm. Can't do it longer. Has to be short. Mm.

SPEAKER_07: 38:18

See, I'm I'm not sure if you're born in England. Well traveled, man.

SPEAKER_04: 38:23

No, I was England.

SPEAKER_07: 38:25

Okay. I feel like you're really bad at this game. I think I can only get. You said about regional accents.

SPEAKER_04: 38:32

This is actually a very ri region, like within a region. A different part of the region. So my my accent would be, because it's very short, you would go. But if you came from a different part of it, maybe the other side, this place, you would go mmm.

SPEAKER_05: 38:53

Okay, well. I don't know what this game has become, actually. I almost regret bringing this up.

SPEAKER_04: 38:58

I do, but I feel that there is a river in between us.

SPEAKER_05: 39:03

I feel like Johnny knows more about the game than we do at this moment. No, no, I know I know what he's trying to get at. I'm just watching you struggle. There's a river. Yeah. Very famous. Very famous river.

SPEAKER_04: 39:15

In this case. I only know one river in England. Seven. Look, sometimes people whamble damn it.

SPEAKER_07: 39:24

What? Wamble? Yes, they wamble damn it. Oh, that's a clue because I've seen on social media you were on this river that the one in London. Is one in London. So you're from South London. Oh, it's London. Yes. You had a 50-50 chance. All I knew. I knew it wasn't easy to west because the river does the other way around.

SPEAKER_04: 39:50

Well done, Ashtake. No, because because actually, coming from where I come from in North London, you say things very you cut things short, say go north. When you go to South London, I go south.

SPEAKER_05: 40:04

So can you give us the North London moor again?

SPEAKER_00: 40:06

Moo.

SPEAKER_05: 40:07

It's like an episode of East Enders already, this isn't it? And uh South London?

SPEAKER_00: 40:12

Moo.

SPEAKER_05: 40:17

How long have you lived in North Flake?

SPEAKER_04: 40:19

Um what, down the road? Down the rood? Um twenty twenty-three years now, Jack. Twenty-three years. Yeah, I love it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 40:33

Love Golston. How was you sitting at Five Lakes? Because you were there help setting it up.

SPEAKER_04: 40:38

Yeah. How was the sort of first 18 months? Yeah, yeah. Well, there's lots of teething problems, but everyone dealt with it professionally, so yeah, it was. Have you been back? Because obviously you when did you leave Five Lakes? Um I had well I had to leave for family reasons, um, which was basically October 2023. If you physically could pick up Hopton, you could put it into Five Lakes maybe four times, yeah. You know, acreage-wise. When you think about it, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_05: 41:07

And and you uh you being so small must have felt huge for you. It was massively huge. Yeah. What's what is the one thing that you did at Five Lakes that you would bring here?

SPEAKER_04: 41:18

Well, we've actually bought part of it into um yeah, into our potterators, which is the carrot tossing, which I think is just You took carrot tossing to Five Lakes. I took well, I actually developed it at Five Lakes. We we did it, or someone else did it there. Um during the Easter, it was the Easter period when we used to have when we first had children. And then it developed from there because what I saw didn't really work, and then so I I created this. What did you create? Talk us through carrot tossing. Carrot tossing was just a a mental thing actually that happened. I say mental because it went like mental. I suppose viral. My version of viral is mental.

SPEAKER_05: 41:58

It's very different. We don't want to talk about your version of viral. We had to teach you how he was a voice note earlier. Your your definition of viral is probably very different.

SPEAKER_04: 42:06

So uh yeah, it was just a great, it was just a great thing that happened to it. Um and it develops, it develops into something that the guests really, really loved and like talked about and looked forward to, actually.

SPEAKER_05: 42:18

Yeah. You have to so you have to throw the carrot.

SPEAKER_04: 42:21

Well, you don't have to throw it, no, you of course you toss a carrot. Oh, sorry.

SPEAKER_07: 42:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 42:26

Is it a whole carrot? No, you cut them up. You can't actually get the whole carrot in the cup, Ash. So you have to throw it into a car? Yes.

SPEAKER_05: 42:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 42:35

Um, from certain distances, Jack. So yeah, you you would earn your points and earn your to to get towards the medals to see how far you could go to actually throw it. And actually, we we actually threw across car parks, believe it or not. People got to throw across a car park. Did you ever hit anybody ever get struck by a cow? Yes, quite a few times.

SPEAKER_05: 42:58

Yeah. Me. You mostly you in frustration.

SPEAKER_04: 43:02

In frustration at throwing them at me when they couldn't get it in the cup.

SPEAKER_05: 43:05

No, it's actually something we have been doing at uh Beat the Entertainer here, isn't it? We have actually it's I think it's incredible to see everybody in the room or everybody on the South Terrace get so invested about throwing a carrot. The absolute elation when like their team catches the carrot.

SPEAKER_07: 43:24

I think also, as human beings, we think we're not going to be as good. And then when they start actually catching them, they have self-belief in themselves. You see the guests and think, wow, this is this is the new thing. And it's just like it just brings them joy of like we're unlocking a new skill for the guests. Where else can you say that on holiday that you've unlocked some skill?

SPEAKER_04: 43:45

No, you you're actually right there. And it is just about this sheer emotion of throwing a sorry, tossing a carrot. You're like, this is but also as well. So you have Five Lakes, I used to offer different carrots. You mean different colour carrots? No, same colour carrots, but from maybe they came from different places that we bought them. So regional carrots, regional carrot or different shops. Shop carrots. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_07: 44:13

So we we would have very posh carrots from Marx's. You know, what's the density like of a posh carrot? Is it? Oh, it's so much more. Are they sweeter?

SPEAKER_04: 44:23

Uh they were sweeter actually, but what when you decide to eat them after, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 44:27

What is the best carrot to toss?

SPEAKER_07: 44:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 44:33

What is the best carrot from which supermarket?

SPEAKER_04: 44:35

Um, I actually found that I do think that I've got to say Lidls. Liddles, most aerodynamic? Probably I say most aerodynamic aerodynamic carrot you can ever have is from Lidls. Why why little? Why little? Because it just mixes the price in between. It's it's it's in between, like, how can I say we'd be in between an Emirates flying, I suppose, and and uh an easy jet, something in the middle, maybe a British airline.

SPEAKER_05: 45:04

You've gone you've gone from two very different ends of the spectrum there, haven't you? I'm gonna Google where their carrots are from, and I'll be back with you in a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Aldi's.

SPEAKER_04: 45:13

You just have Liddles.

SPEAKER_05: 45:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 45:18

How good are you at the carrot tossing? I I actually became very good at it, Chag, if I'm honest, yeah. But you know, there was it started really from just a few people coming and then like it it just developed into at one point. I know I had like over well, it was around about a hundred people I had actually tossing carrot. Are you a tosser or are you a catcher? Actually, people in the past have called me a tosser, but I think I'm a catcher, yeah. You're a catcher. You're you're better at catching than you are at throwing. Yes, I am, yeah. I but I did used to go in, sorry, Ash, I did used to go into the dining halls, the three dining halls uh at Five Lakes, just before I would do uh carrot tossing in the afternoon at lunch times, shouting out, ladies, can you show me any tossers? Because I need them for my carrot tossing. And many women stood up and offered their husbands.

SPEAKER_05: 46:14

Yeah. Who do you think in this in at Hopton the best team members for carrot tossing? Who do you think would be the best at it? Well, who have you seen be the best at it, actually?

SPEAKER_04: 46:28

West End Wendy, yeah. Brian was very good at it, very notchulant with the little arm raised in it. Yeah, I was very impressed with Brian's West End Wendy. Yeah. And myself, actually, myself and Phoebe.

SPEAKER_03: 46:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 46:40

Yeah. Myself and Phoebe did very well, and I actually caught it down on one knee twice. Well, I watched it come, Jack, and went down on one knee and caught it.

SPEAKER_05: 46:49

She must have thrown that carrot quite low for you to even see.

SPEAKER_04: 46:52

No, actually, the art no, actually, the art of doing it is throwing it up very high.

SPEAKER_05: 46:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 46:58

And then you can gauge how it comes down, and you get time with the aerodynamics to catch it. Well, what's a skill that nobody knows that you possess? Things things do happen to me naturally that I think, well, how did I do that?

SPEAKER_05: 47:13

I don't actually understand how I did that. What is the latest example of that? Probably buying a coffee shop. Right, okay. This was gonna come up in just eventually because last time you were on the podcast, we talked about your venture out to Turkey, where you you you invested in a bar. Yeah, I did, yeah. Show bar. A show bar. You talked to us about the shows that you had.

SPEAKER_04: 47:37

Could I say it was called Inner Visions, by the way. Yeah, yeah. And it was about your inner visionist. Inner inner vision. Yes, it was very inner vision. It was my inner vision.

SPEAKER_05: 47:46

Was it not? Was it not what was the and the tagline you had was Never Look Back?

SPEAKER_07: 47:53

Oh, that's nice.

SPEAKER_05: 47:55

Yeah, that was and it's the same thing that the people who drove you out of the past said as well. Thank you for renovating it, never look back. Is that is that from the Buddha statue as well?

SPEAKER_04: 48:08

Um very spiritual thing, I think. That actually took inner visions from um Stevie Wonder's album, actually, Ashley, from the 70s album called Inner Visions, which is a fantastic Stevie Wonder said Never Look Back. Yeah, he did in his lyrics.

SPEAKER_07: 48:28

So, do you know a lot about coffee then?

SPEAKER_05: 48:31

Yeah, so you're you're sorry, have you invested in a coffee bar now?

SPEAKER_07: 48:34

Uh well, I've part invested in a coffee bar, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 48:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_04: 48:37

A coffee shop, little coffee shop in what country in Thailand, in Ao Nang. Um part of Krabby District, Krabby Province, Krabby District District, or Krabby Province, yeah. Very beautiful part of the world. Um many islands off the edge you get ferries to that are visited as well. A lot of crabs, lots and lots of crabs, especially king crabs. You're not serving the coffees then. No, I'm not serving the coffees, actually, they put and they get put in a blender as well.

SPEAKER_05: 49:09

And a blender?

SPEAKER_04: 49:10

Yes, and they use all they use um my favourite actually was the banana choco.

SPEAKER_05: 49:16

Are you sure it's not a smoothie bar that you've messed with?

SPEAKER_04: 49:19

No, it's not a smoothie bar. Well, go to the car. No, uh they actually make like because they make they make obviously iced coffees, which is very popular actually in Thailand and and Asia. But they make hot coffees, but obviously because it is very hot in Asia and around Thailand and Vietnam and um they make they make coffees basically with uh quite a bit of ice in it sometimes. But then obviously they do they do mash it up, I suppose, so they smoothie it in certain ways. But you can have so many different things in in the coffees as well. But Vietnam is very beautiful from one coffee, egg coffee. They don't use milk, they use egg coffee. It's because I think I do believe that during the Vietnam War, I think it that is where egg coffee came from because milk was very difficult to come by. Would that be the white and the yolk or um I believe it is, I believe it is all of it actually, Ash. But I do believe um many people do like yeah, the yolk part of it, take the white off and it's a yolk part. So it's not all of it. It can be though, I think, Jack. But many people do ask, I do believe this, um, because it it looks like obviously quite yellowy until they make it, if you know what I mean, put the coffee in and whatever. But that they're really, really nice.

SPEAKER_07: 50:39

Do you think that will go down well at Potter's Resorts? Something we can And coffee we can put on the menu. Well, when I go back next time, I'll find that exactly how it's made and I'll bring it back.

SPEAKER_05: 50:49

Yeah, yeah. It's a great idea. But how about next time you go out to Vietnam, get the recipe, come back, and me and Ash will try one here.

SPEAKER_07: 50:57

Okay, yeah, okay. I'm not gonna lie, I could probably work out the recipe without going without going all the way. Yeah, yeah, but how an is the fun in that?

SPEAKER_04: 51:06

It could be like that it could be made with eggs.

SPEAKER_07: 51:09

I think you're very close to it, Ash Ash. I'm gonna say eggs, coffee, shot of espresso, and hot water.

SPEAKER_04: 51:16

Yeah, but that obviously there's different beans, isn't there? There's different beans, different coffee beans.

SPEAKER_07: 51:22

Yeah, that's got a point he's got me there. Baked beans, runner beans.

SPEAKER_04: 51:25

Yeah, there's many of them as well. But also, as well, our milk teas, milk teas are very nice as well. So we would make milk teas as well. Um, green teas. Yeah. Chat, but um milk based as well. So you've invested in this coffee bar? Yeah. With someone obviously that knows what they're doing. Yeah, yeah. Well, thank God for that.

SPEAKER_07: 51:51

I've lived in um like the kind of Malaysia area as well, and Dubai. Uh, they use instead of just normal milk, they use um condensed.

SPEAKER_04: 51:59

Yeah, condensed milk, yes. Yes, a lot of sweet coffee. Yes, but uh again, that is to your taste. And you can you can tell people in the coffee shops exactly what what you would like, but obviously they are on the menus that you get, but they're just basically on the streets, so they're street foods, really, or street street drinks, but you know, very streetwise sort of little places. So it's and it's the one that I've invested in is actually near the night market in Aung Nang. When are you going back? When are you going back to Asia? Well, I've actually Jack, I have actually have booked my Asian tour again already in January, stroke February, yeah. Oh, that's cool. Um, which I booked obviously at the moment with Euros.

SPEAKER_05: 52:41

Um with Euros? With Euro carbs, yeah. It sounded like you were saying you booked it on the Eurostar. No, I I booked it with Euros to take the Euro parts over to you're taking your your Yes, I'm taking parts with me as well.

SPEAKER_04: 52:55

Yes, yeah. So to sell on the site.

SPEAKER_05: 52:57

Have you booked a flight or are you going shipped with car parts?

SPEAKER_04: 53:01

I actually may be going shipped with car parts in boxes. Yes, yeah. It's another little thing that I was looking into. Yeah. Because that's one thing you asked me about earlier on. What what what little secret things am I good at? And I've found many things like that I've become good at. Just small enough to fit into a box. Yes.

SPEAKER_05: 53:18

Yeah. Hidden treasures, you could say. Um, what's it been like being back at Potter's Hopton over the summer?

SPEAKER_04: 53:26

I I it's been wonderful just to see all the guests um to mix in with uh the funniest thing really is seeing the guests that were children that are now adults. Yeah, probably. Um, I suppose because you've not been at Hopton for a few years now. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, since basically well, cut COVID obviously tore us all apart, but then I did come back after Turkey, and then I was on the bummer, obviously, which I I loved as well. You know, it's just back being part of Potter's again, and the guests obviously know me quite well, you know, and I know a lot of guests quite well too. It's just one of them wonderful things that I think that in the kids, you see a kid, and a kid will come up to you and say, Johnny, you're right. And I'm like, shut up, it ain't you, is it? You know what I mean? And it is the kid that you've known, and now they're like taller than you, which is not taller at me as a kid, yeah. But you know what I mean, Jack, it would be that thing that where you know you look at a face and you go, I just know that face. It and it was a kid, but obviously it had the face that was younger, but you could still tell it was that child, and it's just wonderful to see now that they've got maybe some even families of their own. Yeah, yeah, it's fantastic. I've been here since 2020. Sorry, 2003, two, three. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 54:42

What's the favourite thing you've done over the summer?

SPEAKER_04: 54:44

My favourite thing that I've done over the summer. Oh, I've just really enjoyed to be honest with you, working with um the girls, mainly Emily and and Phoebe and Harlow. Um Harley. Sorry, Harley.

SPEAKER_05: 54:56

Everyone calls her Harlow, yeah, which is quite funny.

SPEAKER_04: 54:59

You know, that was that actually we've we've it is Mark, but that is obviously I had a Harley as well, didn't we? Five legs that Mark used to call Harlow, yeah. So it just threw back there, but yeah, Harley.

SPEAKER_07: 55:09

Harley's by the way, she does not like it. She does not like being called Harley. No, Harley.

SPEAKER_05: 55:17

Everyone still calls her Harlow. I think more to wind her up. Yeah, um, yeah, that was to wind you up, Harley.

SPEAKER_04: 55:22

By the way, yeah, I've loved I've loved the kids. The kids' club is just I love the kids' club when they come in and introduce themselves, it's just funny. Yeah, they are you know, and like it is just children make their own comedy, obviously, as we all know.

SPEAKER_05: 55:36

It's one of my favourite moments over the the summer, is the sort of the kids' welcomes and things like that just because it's just funny. Never know what they're gonna come out with.

SPEAKER_04: 55:43

Yeah, but even in the garden bar, it's just wonderful, you know. And the the you ask them a question and they're they're just little faces, inadvertently, just well not inadvertently, but literally just go look at you like that and then go to mum or dad. Who am I? Who am I? Yeah, who am I? Uh how old are you? You know, that sort of thing. Where do you come from? Which I love the thing, which is always like England.

unknown: 56:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 56:07

Or they'll say where they live in their street.

SPEAKER_05: 56:10

You've we've talked about this in the garden party a couple of times, haven't we? Which is quite funny.

SPEAKER_04: 56:15

Yeah. And a child gets lost, and you go, where do you come from? England. Well, that's really good. But then someone showed me a thing with a passcode or something, a password that you say, and the police apparently know exactly where you're talking about what three words. Yes, that's the one, Jack.

SPEAKER_05: 56:33

Yeah, that's too advanced for me to explain to you. Well, I didn't. We've only just learned how to do voice notes.

SPEAKER_04: 56:40

I didn't I didn't get it when the when the uh parents were trying to explain to me.

SPEAKER_05: 56:44

Yeah, a three-year-old can understand it.

SPEAKER_04: 56:46

Yeah, well, but yeah, no, I just I just love I just love that part of the job. I I again just being back here, and also you say about spiritual, which is why I say spiritual quite a lot about myself, is because I'm very spiritual with Hopton, I think. Because that was a massive part of my my life from my child, which I don't really remember until I was probably about eight or nine, yeah, with with Brian's uh mum and dad, like Hector and Vera. They were my people that I remember first off. Um, and then like growing up, because my mum and dad bought me when I was first three months old, and then like consecutive years, and then I bought my families, my different wives and girlfriends, whatever it was, then yeah, my kids, they all love this place. So it's generations like six generations of my family. So my great-grandad, my granddad, and then my mum and dad, myself, my children, and my grandchildren. So six generations of my family.

SPEAKER_08: 57:47

Wow.

SPEAKER_04: 57:48

So I feel always feel that Potter's is a massive, massive part of it.

SPEAKER_05: 57:52

And I think that's what's so beautiful about the summer is seeing all of those generations in one place at one time, massive, all enjoying themselves, all laughing at the same things, all going off and like from babies all the way to the 99-year-olds, yeah, all just spending time together, and that's what makes this place so special is all of the history about it. Yeah, without a shadow of it. But all of this, all of it happening in one moment, right?

SPEAKER_07: 58:20

I just think from an from selfishly from an entertainer's point of view, in the summer we put on so much more, we work so hard, but it's so much easier to entertain because they kind of do it themselves because they've got the history, they know your face. Well, I mean, I've already been to a dot, but like they either they know what it's about, so they're already in, you don't have to train them in what to do, they know it's safe and they know the comedy's coming, so it's just so much easier as an entertainer. What would you say from from a from uh a team perspective? So if we get a new team and stuff like that, as an entertainer yourself, uh nowadays, what is what what would they look for to say they're starting their career, their jobs in entertainment?

SPEAKER_04: 59:02

I think Potters as as a as a young star, I think it would be the interaction. I don't think you could because of Potters' history, because of the way Potters has been with their entertainers ever since I've remember Jeff Parsons and you know, like Mark, obviously Mark's team when Mark first came in with the likes of Johnny Wade and Andy Feet and Buzz and Graham Adams and um I said Johnny Wade, yeah, Johnny Cleveland and just like so many, so many wonderful people that I've worked with, you know, and enjoyed as a guest. Um Rachel, Angie Rose and um Fat Bloke, Richard, you know, Katrina Knight, Fetcher, you know, all the people that I worked with over the years as well, just great, great people and the new people that are coming in. I just feel that you I actually said this to Harlow. Sorry, Harley, I was joking. I said this to Harley. I said, Harley, you know, this is a great place for you to learn and then go away and take. I said, look, please watch everyone how they work. Please watch and take traits of them, but always be yourself. Don't try to be anyone in particular, but you will obviously look at stronger characters, but then you'll pick up on characters that maybe we we think that you would have took from, but you didn't. You took them from other people, you know, like people you work with. But take those traits, take them away, and hone your skills in that way. And I don't think there's any better place than Potters anywhere to do that. Because I think we are so diverse as a company as well, in that respect.

SPEAKER_05: 1:00:44

Um that's great advice. I think it's just yeah. Yeah, that's beautiful. That was really poetic, actually. No, thank you.

SPEAKER_04: 1:00:52

No, but I I feel very strongly about that, you know. I I do you know the trouble is now I think we all realise it, look, children now growing up and things like social media's taking a massive turn, maybe in my in my eyes for the worse, I think. But you know, because it takes us away from actually communicating.

SPEAKER_05: 1:01:09

Takes you away from the moment as well.

SPEAKER_04: 1:01:11

Yeah, it takes you away from the moment. You know, when I see people, I see people going out and they're sitting and they're a couple and they're they're not even talking, they're looking at their phones, looking across after having dinner or whatever it was, you know. Like you're like, what is that about? You know, I actually spoke to this about the girls. Um, this was with Emily and Phoebe and Rianne, I think this was as well, uh, having lunch. We were talking about Rihanna's mum and dad actually, because he said 25th wedding anniversary. Yeah, which I want to give a special mention to uh Ian Mack and Alison. Obviously, happy 25th anniversary and um wonderful family, the Macintoshies, as we all know. With young Ian, Jean Valjean.

SPEAKER_05: 1:01:52

Yeah, I mean, a lot of their family have worked here over the years.

SPEAKER_04: 1:01:55

Ian Ian Mack, I call him the toast chef because he used to do the toast and cook it very, very well. Didn't never burn it, Ian. Thanks for that. Um Ian is actually Scottish as well. I spend a lot of time with Ian. Not Geordie if you get connected. No, no, um, but yeah, uh, you know, like we were talking about that actually, and like saying that, but when you first meet, you know, where you met and that, you know, now obviously back in my days you met in pubs and clubs and like you know, school or whatever it was that way, but now it is on the internet and you know, online and whatever. But it was wonderful to say you know, like about phoning and when like you had to get a phone call, you know, on a landline. And when I said landline, the girls just basically wet themselves laughing, if I'm honest with you. They're like, oh landline, I thought, yeah, but it's true, you know, like you you get the umpwee for your mum and dad because they're on the phone and you're waiting for your girlfriend everything. You say, excuse me, mum and dad, who pays the bills in here, mate? You know what I mean? But when you when you start paying, mate, you can start using the phone properly. Ask your mum and dad, you know what I mean? So, like, just funny things, really, I think, in that respect. Um, so now we just take everything for granted. Like an apple and an orange. I remember having them in my uh Christmas stocking jack. And now people are asking for an apple phone, yeah. Apple phone, uh like orange, whatever it is, like a laptop or whatever.

SPEAKER_05: 1:03:20

I mean there isn't an orange laptop. Well, yeah. You obviously you've got a lot of history here. We're always updating Simply the Best now. Is there a moment from a show that you've been in that you've watched that you think should be in a new version of Simply the Best?

SPEAKER_04: 1:03:40

Oh jeez.

SPEAKER_05: 1:03:42

I'm really putting you on the spot there, but I'm just thinking, you know.

SPEAKER_04: 1:03:44

I think my favourite was an old, old cowboy sketch that Mark used to do with Big Kate with Katie Knight, yeah. Buzz Johnny Andy Graham, um the stage coach, which was very, very funny. Oh, and Mark doing um uh Gone with a Wind in Three Minutes, which was so funny. Yeah. What what did that entail? Uh that entailed him being Wet Butler and Scarlett O'Hara.

SPEAKER_08: 1:04:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:04:20

He played both characters, yeah. Uh it was just really funny. Uh some of the things probably you you couldn't do no more.

SPEAKER_05: 1:04:27

Yeah. You know, it's always been that blend of comedy and sort of the more serious stuff that's that's helped well made the entertainment here over the years, hasn't it?

SPEAKER_04: 1:04:35

Yeah, massive time. You know, I I as I said, you know, I mean I came here from a very young child and then into my teens and that, you know. I mean, I when I first when I first became a like a young apprentice professional, you know. I mean, I still came here when I was like 15, 16, 17, 18 with my mates, I loved it here as well. I just remember all those days of when I was playing football just before I signed in as an apprentice and and coming here and when I was probably about 11, 12, as I was playing with like playing within what would you call now academies. We didn't have academies back in that day. You just trained after school with a football team that you were associated with, you know, as an associated schoolboy. But being carried across from Golden Sands to here after scoring a hat-trick and we we we won night something like about four or three or something, and I'd be carried across as an 11-year-old kid as a hero on the shoulders of all the parents, like throwing me up in the air because I'd we'd beat in Golden Sands, you know, like them sort of things were just fantastic in them days, and kids and I remember looking through the old cabaret bar window at my parents. I don't know if I'd said this in the case.

SPEAKER_05: 1:05:51

Yeah, you said this last time sort of watching sort of Jeff Parsons, yeah, watching Jeff and watching my mum and dad crazy and banging on the window, like gasping for a drink when mum and dad had just been on it all day.

SPEAKER_04: 1:06:02

Yeah, you know what I mean? Like it just funny things like that, yeah. And then and then coming out and giving you two bob and going like that keep him quiet for half hour. Yeah, two bob's like ten pence now, guys. He used to get away with a lot with ten pence back in them days, or two bob. Yeah, just so many things, Jack.

SPEAKER_05: 1:06:22

Before we ran wrap up, because we've got to wrap up soon, there's a couple of things I wanted to do beforehand. Um, first off, I'm gonna we're gonna start with you keep mentioning about being spiritual. I'm gonna take you to a spiritual part of the podcast before we do wrap things up. We want to introduce you to the all-exclusive Zen Garden. What this is, Johnny, this is an opportunity for you to just get you know something off your chest, you know, just just to rant.

SPEAKER_04: 1:06:57

Is this really a good idea?

SPEAKER_05: 1:06:58

I I'm as I'm explaining this, I'm thinking, oh my god, can we actually get away with doing this with you? But look, we're gonna give you an opportunity, obviously, to keep it PC, keep it PG, no swearing. I don't change the swearing. No, you're not a lot. No, you don't. But but just sort of to get anything that annoys you, grind your gears off your chest. And it can be anything from the mundane Asher's gonna give us an example.

SPEAKER_07: 1:07:25

Yes, so something that annoys me is when uh we schedule in a podcast at a certain time, and then someone turns up late and still not explain why they were late. That annoys me.

SPEAKER_05: 1:07:36

I did actually explain. So things like that, you can get it off your chest, and then we take a step into the Zen garden and we'll just relax. We'll give a moment of spirituality.

SPEAKER_04: 1:07:45

I think actually he's just upset like I didn't read his voice no. Yeah, didn't even understand what it was.

SPEAKER_05: 1:07:52

I think it's a more deep rooted issue that nobody listens to him, maybe. You do need to check as well if Mark has replied to you. Oh, yeah, we will do that one.

SPEAKER_04: 1:08:01

Yeah, I don't think Mark has not even looked at my phone. This this is a great thing, but we've been doing this for how long now? Some would say too long. Yeah, well, I've not even looked at my phone.

SPEAKER_05: 1:08:10

Boss thinks too long.

SPEAKER_04: 1:08:12

But but this is this is the great thing about that.

SPEAKER_05: 1:08:15

It's it's conversation. People don't take the time to that.

SPEAKER_04: 1:08:18

No, they don't.

SPEAKER_05: 1:08:19

So, Johnny, this is your moment. Get it off your chest, we'll sit back.

SPEAKER_04: 1:08:24

Eba Ricciese, why did you sign for Arsenal? That's what I want to get off my chest. I understand to a certain extent, but I do think in the long run you'd be better off playing for spurs. There you go. That's one thing I really want to get off my chest. How do you feel, man?

SPEAKER_05: 1:08:48

Has it helped you in any way? Not really, because he's signed for them. But I just wanted to get off my chest. Is there a message you really want to get across to him if he's listening? Yes.

SPEAKER_04: 1:09:02

Every shoe. You would have looked so much better in the lily white at all. You can't be a guner.

SPEAKER_05: 1:09:12

So I would sooner. I can't say them. Thank you very much for stopping there. Now we've given you an opportunity just to release that tension in your body. Together, we're all gonna hold hands. And we're gonna step into the Zen garden.

unknown: 1:09:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_04: 1:09:31

Do we actually physically?

SPEAKER_07: 1:09:34

Have we done this in every other moment? Is Ross coming in the next?

SPEAKER_04: 1:09:38

Can Ross come in on this? Do you want to hold hands?

SPEAKER_05: 1:09:40

Ross don't want to come in. I'm sorry, we'll just do some. Okay. Just take a moment just to feel the grass. Close your eyes, feel the grass under your toes.

SPEAKER_06: 1:09:48

Did we hold hands in the last ones?

SPEAKER_05: 1:09:50

Just breathe in. I like this, Jack.

SPEAKER_06: 1:09:51

This is very close to you.

SPEAKER_05: 1:09:52

And out. Breathe in. Woo sa. Woo-sah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:10:02

And when you're ready. No, Jack, I do not want to let go, Jack. Rules, rules.

SPEAKER_05: 1:10:08

Mechanics games. We're gonna just let go and step out of the Zengar. Do you feel better? Yeah, I feel more spiritually at peace.

SPEAKER_04: 1:10:17

Yeah, I feel spiritually at peace.

SPEAKER_05: 1:10:21

I'm gonna do something very, very quickly because there's one thing I really wanted to do earlier. Um, throughout the first season, the second season, you have been, and I didn't want to end on a negative, but um we played a quiz when you were last here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was the ABC quiz. Yeah, yeah. And you have the title, I believe, as the worst ever contestant. Wow. Next, but since then, I think Ashley has actually been the worst ever contestant on the ABC quiz. No, no, no. Last time you scored eight on the ABC quiz.

SPEAKER_07: 1:10:54

That's very good.

SPEAKER_05: 1:10:55

You actually he did ten, but then Henry took two points away. Okay.

SPEAKER_07: 1:10:58

The ABC quiz stands for anything but correct. I'd have really think about that, yeah. It's been months since we've recorded.

SPEAKER_05: 1:11:15

So anything but correct, you have to just answer incorrect answers only. We give you 47. Do I have to mention advocado? You don't have to mention avocados, but if you want to mention the advocados that you love. I do love advocados. Yeah. Um How'd you pronounce that again, Jay? Avocado.

unknown: 1:11:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_05: 1:11:37

So all you have to do, like, for example, give you an example. If we were to say what colour is the sky, you would say red. Red, yeah. Good. So you've just wrong answers only. Okay. Are you ready, though?

SPEAKER_07: 1:11:48

Why are you googling the answers? You've Johnny's just picked up his phone. Yes. Yeah, because you asked me to look. No, not you.

SPEAKER_05: 1:11:55

No, no, no, no. You're not writing them down. Oh my god. You're not writing it down. He's writing down your answers so he can score at the end. Sorry. Yes.

SPEAKER_07: 1:12:03

It would be it would be a very bad podcast. If Jack asked you a question, you just type the answer. If we have to just done it halfway through, they got to do it.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:11

I actually understood it. Sorry, Ross, but I actually understood your explanation that way, Jack.

SPEAKER_07: 1:12:15

Has Mark replied to you?

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:17

No, he hasn't. Okay, let's do start.

SPEAKER_05: 1:12:20

Right, are we ready? Johnny Mac. 47 seconds on the clock. Get ready, time starts. Now. Name something you drink. Banana. What is your name? Name something that grows on trees. Egg. What noise does a field mouse make? Name a flavour of soup.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:52

Coffee.

SPEAKER_05: 1:12:53

What colour is a flamingo?

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:56

White.

SPEAKER_05: 1:12:57

Well, who was the first man on the moon?

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:00

Buzz Aldrey.

SPEAKER_05: 1:13:02

What does WW dot stand for?

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:05

Worldwide life. Extravaganta.

SPEAKER_05: 1:13:08

Where would you wear glasses? On the back of my head. What is the opposite of sad?

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:16

Stader.

SPEAKER_05: 1:13:18

What does a vet look like? Look after sorry.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:22

What does a vet look after? Me, probably.

SPEAKER_05: 1:13:27

And a final question. Did I accidentally set a 45-minute timer instead of a 45-second timer? Uh old MacDonald had a. Jackson. Thank you so much, Johnny Mack.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:44

I said Jackie Jack, because I was looking at you now.

SPEAKER_05: 1:13:52

Right, Johnny Mack, we're gonna go through your answers. See if you've improved on the score of eight, considering maybe I think I gave you more than I think I gave you a lot more than 45-7 or 47 minutes. Seconds. 47 minutes. I don't know how I managed to do that.

SPEAKER_07: 1:14:10

We'll time it later. Okay, so a few issues we've got here. So the first one uh issue is um you so the question was about something name, something you can drink. Yeah, name something you drink. Johnny, you said bananas. Now earlier on in the podcast, you specifically mentioned a chocolate and banana drink which you sell in your coffee shop. In your coffee shop, so no points for that. I'll take that. Um you say name something that doesn't grow on trees. You said eggs. Now, there is an eggplant. I've just googled it. Is it a tree? Is it a bush? Is it a shrub? Um is eggplant a tree or it is a short-lived perennial perennial plant. Perennial plant. Perennial plant.

SPEAKER_05: 1:14:58

Isn't it weird that you're correcting him?

SPEAKER_07: 1:15:00

Yeah. Specifically. I'm just not gonna give you the point because I don't want to. Okay. Um name a flavour soup that's coffee, coffee soup. Um, that's just a cup of coffee. So that's fine. I've googled white flamingo, that is a that is a thing. There's literally loads of white flamingos. There are white flamingos. Yeah. Wow. Um, did you say first man on the moon or anyone on the moon? I did ask for the first man on the moon. And he was the first man on the moon. Was he or was Neil Armstrong? It's um it's uh Neil Armstrong was the second.

SPEAKER_04: 1:15:35

Was it Bas?

SPEAKER_07: 1:15:36

Honestly, Bas Aldrin. Yeah, Bas Aldrin was the first man on the moon.

SPEAKER_04: 1:15:39

No, I thought it was being clever then. Okay, let's I think you should give me that point.

SPEAKER_07: 1:15:42

Yeah, maybe. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you that point. Thank you. Because I was I was trying to be a bit clever with that. You that was quite good. You said name somewhere you can't wear glasses on the back of your head. No, you said name somewhere where would you wear glasses? Where would you wear glasses? I have seen many people wear uh sunglasses on the back of their heads.

SPEAKER_04: 1:16:01

Oh yeah, I know I was trying to be clever as well, there. I think maybe done in the future. I was trying to say I I've got eyes in the back of my head.

SPEAKER_07: 1:16:08

So you get one, oh do I say you get one, two, can you do the feel mouse impression again, please? Ew. One, two, three, I'll give you the coffee soup, four for Buzz Aldrin, five for WWE, six for Sada, seven for vet, because and I'll give you a bonus point because um Jack mucked up the question. Um said, Who did a vet look like? I was like, who is she? Um says eight and oh MacDonald, no, you scored a grand total of nine. Oh, I've got one more than last time. One more than last time.

SPEAKER_05: 1:16:45

Last time, yeah, yeah. Which is an improvement. Well, thank you, Jack. Another if we do another 17 seasons, you might actually catch up with everyone else. Oh, Johnny big me up then. Do you feel like you've connected with Ashley on a yeah?

SPEAKER_04: 1:16:59

I think to be honest with you, Ashley, I have connected with Ashley since I've been here. I do feel that.

SPEAKER_07: 1:17:05

You see, I I want to go, my brains want to go down the comedy silly answer, but I will just say this. So I've only known Johnny for the summer. I've known of him long, long time than that. And I've been a very busy boy. And I've apologised to Johnny more than anyone saying I'm really sorry I've not spent enough time with you. But every single time, either we're in his presence or just around him, he is wonderful. He's genuinely amazing. He's got a bad bone in his body. The love he gives to the team and the guests is just pure joy. Is it a proper I hate myself for saying this, proper old school entertainer who just gets it, gets the industry, proper class, proper classy gentleman. Thank you. And uh I think that's why I've not even I've not given you. You've not found you needed to. No, genuinely, I've not, because it's just just a safe guy. And I'm like, you know what? I can learn from him.

SPEAKER_04: 1:18:01

Ashley, you actually did say that to me, and I I did take that on ball very, you know, very made me feel proud to be honest with you. Yeah, and it did make me well up a little bit because it's nice, it's nice when someone says nice things about you, obviously. But if I'm honest, Ashley, and the whole things that I do and everyone will tell you this, I think I'm just me, I just who I am. Yeah. I think a guest asked me once, they said, Johnny, what do you think the art of being an entertainer is? And I said, I I believe that is knowing someone for 10 minutes when they believe they've known you all your life. I just think that's basically what it's all about. And I do think you feel that with people, and I think they feel people that are genuine, you know. So yeah, that thank you so much for your words, Ash.

SPEAKER_07: 1:18:43

I makes me feel proud, and I'm very it annoys me that you're making me serious. I don't like it, it's uncomfortable. No, I know it's no, it's it's it's true, and everyone loves it.

SPEAKER_05: 1:18:53

And I think, yeah, everyone, everyone's felt that having you back over the summer's been brilliant. It's been have you enjoyed being back as much as we've enjoyed having you in. Yeah, and it's been fantastic, mate. Can we ex you know, I'm not saying that any decisions have been made, but hopefully we get to see more of you moving forward. Jack, look, I would love that in in anyways.

SPEAKER_04: 1:19:16

Yes, you know, of course, Jack.

SPEAKER_05: 1:19:18

Whether it's on a stage or delivering Euro.

SPEAKER_04: 1:19:22

So by all means, contact Euros in Watplode Road, lower stuff, opposite bird's eye. Ask for Johnny Mack to come and deliver.

SPEAKER_05: 1:19:30

There we go. That episode was with Johnny Mack. Um, there we go. Do you want to do your little clap thing again? You enjoy we have to so just a bit because we're now filming this, we have to clap to sync the cameras and the audio together, and it's it's become hard work.

SPEAKER_07: 1:19:46

It has indeed.

SPEAKER_05: 1:19:47

Can I do your clap?

SPEAKER_02: 1:19:49

Guys, that was a good clap. Guys, you you talked about clapping. I I think officially got the loudest clap. When I clap and say, Oh, happy birthday, do it.

SPEAKER_05: 1:19:59

We might have to mute you there. Okay, what about you just witnessed that? That was a that was quite a loud clap, but it's quite an echoey room. But you've you you have got, because remember when we were rehearsing fever for Cabaret Club, you've got a really loud click. Yeah. Have you? Maybe you've lost it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:20:18

Wow. It's quite a powerful. Wait, I want it. Here we go. Never know how much I love you. Never know how much I care.

SPEAKER_07: 1:20:29

Never know the words of the song.

SPEAKER_06: 1:20:32

Oh, why do you ruin everything? I don't know the words of the song. How can you not know one of the biggest songs? Is this still the outrage of Johnny Matt?

SPEAKER_02: 1:20:39

Yes, we do. Yes. Can I just say, um, while I was at home with Sarah and that, we were doing the lottery a lot. And this is the first time I've actually got it cheap arms, so I might have to put that on tonight.

SPEAKER_05: 1:20:53

Yeah. Well, when you win the lottery, you can treat us all to the pizza we're having. What's the first thing you'd buy? A substantial amount of cash. Could you imagine him being up on the Yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 1:21:10

That would be good. What would you what change would you make with entertainment?

SPEAKER_05: 1:21:17

When you said what change would you make, I was gonna make a joke about the change you'd receive from anyway.

SPEAKER_02: 1:21:22

I would just I would look forward to just getting an office, giving myself a title, having a Costa Coffee machine, having a beautiful swimming chair, having a beautiful laptop, and just having an Apple calendar planner that said I'm busy every day and I knew I wasn't.

SPEAKER_07: 1:21:40

It could just be allergic reaction, of course. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:21:44

Well, what would you do then? Okay, you win five million pounds, Jack.

SPEAKER_05: 1:21:47

I don't think we've got time for we'll we'll ask this in another episode. We're gonna come back. When we bring you back on for another episode, we'll talk about what we're gonna do with because if you've won the money by then, we'll be able to talk about it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:21:57

I I haven't told you the truth. What's that? There was a reason why we've been away for three months.

unknown: 1:22:02

I got the golden dig it.

SPEAKER_05: 1:22:04

Anyway, see you next week. Thank you for listening to or watching the all exclusive podcast. I just gave it.

SPEAKER_08: 1:22:11

Wait, what did I say?